I don't talk that much about politics here, but this Mark Foley scandal is pretty crazy. For those who don't know, he's the congressman who was hitting on 15 and 16 year old boy congressional pages. He even interuppted votes in Congress to have online sex with one of these kids. He's quit and entered rehab - apparently getting drunk turns you into a pedophile, it only turns me into chubby chaser. And now it turns out that maybe the Republicans knew about it and covered it up just they could keep his seat Republican. We don't know this yet for sure, but there is going to be an investigation.
The right wing clowns like Sean Hannity are trying to spin that shadowy left wing figures had this story and didn't bring it up until right before the election. Yeah, and...? Who cares? It did happen, right? But my favorite excuse that they are giving is that the Republican powers that be never saw the incriminating instant messages, but only saw the "harmless, G-rated" email Foley had sent to that kid. Okay, that email was sent by Foley from his personal email address, and in it he writes to a 15 year old boy about another boy's body, and how he's "well built", and requests a photo. That's harmless? The dudes on Dateline: To Catch a Predator are way more harmless. Who knew the Republicans had such a high threshold for child porn? I guess it doesn't cross the line until someone's getting lubed up.
Anyway, my friend Cheryl emailed me this news story, which is dated September 12, 1998, check out the motherfucking hypocrisy:
Congress sees through party-colored glasses
By BILL ADAIR
© St. Petersburg Times, published September 12, 1998
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WASHINGTON -- For more than a week, members of Congress said they would avoid partisan politics when they got Kenneth Starr's report on President Clinton. But when they finally saw it Friday, they split along party lines.
Republicans were aghast at Clinton's behavior, with many saying it showed he had lied and abused his power.
"It's vile," said Rep. Mark Foley, R-West Palm Beach. "It's more sad than anything else, to see someone with such potential throw it all down the drain because of a sexual addiction."
Democrats said they, too, were troubled by the explicit details about Clinton's sexual affair with Monica Lewinsky. But several Democrats said there was nothing in the report to justify impeachment.
"It's tabloid," said Rep. Albert Wynn, D-Md. He said the report was a sensational account of the times and locations of Clinton and Lewinsky's sexual encounters, but it did not break any new ground about the allegations against the president.
"I don't think you need to know the times or the hallways" where the encounters took place, Wynn said.
Clinton's fate now lies with Congress.
Next week, the House of Representatives is expected to formally send Starr's report to the Judiciary Committee, which will decide whether to recommend impeachment proceedings. The full House would then decide whether to impeach the president. If that happens, the case will then move to the Senate, where the case would be tried with senators sitting as jurors.
Some of the strongest reaction Friday was in response to Starr's account of Lewinsky performing oral sex on Clinton as he chatted with members of Congress on the telephone.
That was "just sad," Foley said. "It's unbelievable that he could behave so carelessly in that setting."
Starr's report said Clinton was on the telephone with Rep. Sonny Callahan, R-Ala., during his second sexual encounter with Lewinsky. Callahan, in a prepared statement, said he was talking to Clinton about the American mission in Bosnia. He said he "had no knowledge I was sharing the president's time or attention with anyone else."
Rep. Thomas Davis, R-Va., said the report is "worse than I had thought. Starr lays out a very strong case."
"I have read enough of the report to believe we should have an impeachment hearing," said Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas. "I think the president has a very serious problem on his hands."
Rep. Constance Morella, R-Md., said the report "read like a novel. I was very shocked by the graphic nature of it."
But Democrats said the report centered on a personal sexual relationship that did not warrant action by the House.
Rep. Charles Rangel of New York said that in the atmosphere of "rancorous partisanship" gripping Congress, some members "are demanding a moral standard for the president that is higher than they would set for themselves."
Next week, the Judiciary Committee's first task will be to determine how much of the evidence can be released to the public. The committee has until Sept. 28 to review about 2,600 additional pages of evidence to determine what is releasable. Some committee members could begin looking at the documents today.
The committee's primary task, though, will be determining whether to recommend Clinton be impeached. That could be contentious because the judiciary committee is one of the most partisan in Congress.
Among the 19 Republicans are Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia, one of Clinton's strongest critics. The 15 Democrats include Rep. Robert Wexler of Boca Raton, one of Clinton's most loyal supporters.
Wexler said Friday: "There was nothing in the report that laid out a case (that Clinton) tampered with witnesses or obstructed justice. The president has betrayed his wife, but I don't think he has betrayed the American people."
Two other Florida Republicans on the committee, Bill McCollum of Longwood and Charles Canady of Lakeland, also are expected to play prominent roles in the inquiry.
Despite the growing partisan rhetoric, Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde, R-Ill., vowed the process would be fair.
"Due process and fundamental fairness will be observed," Hyde said. "We're going to wait and hear what the president has to say."
-- Information from Reuters and Bloomberg was used in this report.
8 comments:
Don't be a schmuck, Irwin. Do you know what this article REALLY shows? That Democrats didn't think what Clinton did was really that wrong and that it didn't warrant an investigation or impeachment proceedings...even though the event was a President lying to the American people about having sex with a White House intern! If the Democrats couldn't agree to prosecuted for THAT, why are they so upset about Foley sending emails to boys? I'll tell you why. Because they want to retake control of Congress and they need to win some seats in next week's election. That's why they are demanding that Speaker of the House Hastert resign over this. Funny, but they didn't ask Clinton to resign, did they? No! As the father of a minor child, I think what Foley did was terrible. But I would much rather have my kid get an email from someone than have sex with them in a closet. P.S. - Studio 60 sucks!
When did your blog turn into Rolling Stone magazine?
But I would much rather have my kid get an email from someone than have sex with them in a closet.
Wow, I'm glad you aren't my dad, because that woman was 22 when she was fucking Clinton in a closet, and where I'm from, by the time you're 22 it's not any of your dad's business who you fuck in closets. You're kind of creepy, Anonymous.
Awww...I liked the post. You definitely have a point.
p.s. Smith got cancelled? Sorry.
Anonymous? Are you for fucking real? A grown man having consensual sex with a grown woman (regardless of the fact that it happened in the White House) is worse than a grown man sending pornographic emails to minors? What sick twisted world do you live in? The only person Clinton really hurt was his own wife and daughter. Foley endangered minors. MINORS. So lying to the American people about having sex with a consensual partner is worse than being a paedophile? I live on the other side of the world but I can still remember my absolute fucking incredulity that the American people were baying for Clinton's blood simply because he had sex with a woman and lied about it. Pretend to be underaged and send your email address to a kiddie porn site and see how upset you actually DO get when you see what those relentless damaged monsters start emailing you. You'd be happy with your child getting the same thing? I really don't think so.
All right, maybe I'm splitting hairs here but the E-MAILS Foley sent were basically harmless. Creepy? Oh definately. Tell-your-parents-about-them creepy? Absolutely. But hardly "pornographic" as TalulahBelle says, or "sexually explicit" as most media outlets are reporting. The E-MAILS were creepy.
The instant messages were pornographic and sexually explicit. His actions towards and with the pages were completely inappropriate. And depending on how much people knew and when... well some other folks need to step up and take responsibility as well. Foley is scum and there's a special place for pedophiles in hell, but let's not get our facts on the case confused.
Yes Jenny...you are definitely splitting hairs. The point is the guy is a scum bag and a hypocrite
I just have to add that the most ridiculous thing of all the coverage was Fox news labeling Foley as Democrat.
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